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		<title>By: Jimbob</title>
		<link>http://muragdoctor.com/2007/09/30/katana/comment-page-1/#comment-34024</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 00:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fer Christ&#039;s sake...

1) The groove on blades isn&#039;t meant to allow blood flow, or cut better or any of that crap. Its called a fuller and its meant to lighten the blade without weakening it. 

2) Curved blades don&#039;t move faster or cut better. The ability of a blade to cut depends on alot of things, and the very gentle curve of the katana makes little difference to the cutting ability.

The curved shape of the Katana comes from the fact it descends from a cavalry sabre, where the curved shape allows you to attack targets on the ground without losing the blade.Europeans used lots of curved blades, some of which like the Kreigsmesser looked just like a Katana with a western crossguard. 

3) The Katana was folded because Japanese steel making technology sucked, and folding was needed to turn the shitty iron into good steel. They learned the technique from the chinese, and every sword making culture on the planet knew how to do it. Euro smiths stopped employing the technique because euro steel was alot better and didn&#039;t need the folding process.

4) European longsword was half a foot longer than a Katana and weighed the same! between 2.5 to  3.5 pounds. IT WAS NOT DESIGNED FOR CUTTING ARMOUR. You cannot cut face hardened steel plates with a sword. European swords handle just as well, move just as well, cut just as well, and were just as finely forged as the Katana. The only thing the Katana has going for it is Hype

These guys are using fully weighted longswords and they aren&#039;t slow or clumsy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjT4JepA-Vc

5) Plate armour was neither heavy nor clumsy. A full suit of plate was less encumbering than the classic o yoroi. It weighed about 60 pounds, was very finely articulated, with superb weight distribution and did not encumber much at all. You can do cartwheels, gymnastics, sprints and even swim in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fer Christ&#8217;s sake&#8230;</p>
<p>1) The groove on blades isn&#8217;t meant to allow blood flow, or cut better or any of that crap. Its called a fuller and its meant to lighten the blade without weakening it. </p>
<p>2) Curved blades don&#8217;t move faster or cut better. The ability of a blade to cut depends on alot of things, and the very gentle curve of the katana makes little difference to the cutting ability.</p>
<p>The curved shape of the Katana comes from the fact it descends from a cavalry sabre, where the curved shape allows you to attack targets on the ground without losing the blade.Europeans used lots of curved blades, some of which like the Kreigsmesser looked just like a Katana with a western crossguard. </p>
<p>3) The Katana was folded because Japanese steel making technology sucked, and folding was needed to turn the shitty iron into good steel. They learned the technique from the chinese, and every sword making culture on the planet knew how to do it. Euro smiths stopped employing the technique because euro steel was alot better and didn&#8217;t need the folding process.</p>
<p>4) European longsword was half a foot longer than a Katana and weighed the same! between 2.5 to  3.5 pounds. IT WAS NOT DESIGNED FOR CUTTING ARMOUR. You cannot cut face hardened steel plates with a sword. European swords handle just as well, move just as well, cut just as well, and were just as finely forged as the Katana. The only thing the Katana has going for it is Hype</p>
<p>These guys are using fully weighted longswords and they aren&#8217;t slow or clumsy<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjT4JepA-Vc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjT4JepA-Vc</a></p>
<p>5) Plate armour was neither heavy nor clumsy. A full suit of plate was less encumbering than the classic o yoroi. It weighed about 60 pounds, was very finely articulated, with superb weight distribution and did not encumber much at all. You can do cartwheels, gymnastics, sprints and even swim in it.</p>
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		<title>By: juen</title>
		<link>http://muragdoctor.com/2007/09/30/katana/comment-page-1/#comment-24470</link>
		<dc:creator>juen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i might agree with you all but I disagree about both parties arguing about superiority. No weapon is above or below one another. A sword is just an extension of a warrior&#039;s arm and it depends on the warrior on how they are wielded. A European sword is really a strong and robust sword, it can cleave a rock or cut an armor in half but the Japanese katana is slim but sharp, built for good handling and fast cutting, it can cut through human flesh like butter and the wielder can move faster for more slashing. Imagine two warriors dueling, one with a katana and one with a European sword... can you see the advantage and disadvantages of both? If not then you&#039;re stupid. 


~Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i might agree with you all but I disagree about both parties arguing about superiority. No weapon is above or below one another. A sword is just an extension of a warrior&#8217;s arm and it depends on the warrior on how they are wielded. A European sword is really a strong and robust sword, it can cleave a rock or cut an armor in half but the Japanese katana is slim but sharp, built for good handling and fast cutting, it can cut through human flesh like butter and the wielder can move faster for more slashing. Imagine two warriors dueling, one with a katana and one with a European sword&#8230; can you see the advantage and disadvantages of both? If not then you&#8217;re stupid. </p>
<p>~Peace</p>
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		<title>By: sujirou</title>
		<link>http://muragdoctor.com/2007/09/30/katana/comment-page-1/#comment-9596</link>
		<dc:creator>sujirou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 21:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>check this out: http://swordforum.com/forge/js-basicforging.html It shows how the samurai sword is superior to its european couterpart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>check this out: <a href="http://swordforum.com/forge/js-basicforging.html">http://swordforum.com/forge/js-basicforging.html</a> It shows how the samurai sword is superior to its european couterpart.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferhart</title>
		<link>http://muragdoctor.com/2007/09/30/katana/comment-page-1/#comment-9447</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 12:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hallo  sehr geilen Weblog betreust du. Ich selber habe auch schon länger eine eigene homepage gebastelt, nähmlich eine Suchmaschine. Momentan noch zu finden auf http://beta.jerome.de . Währe nett wenn du mir berichtest wie du sie findest und was noch schlecht daran ist. Ein Redesign kommt erst im laufe des Monats noch hinzu. Schönes Wochenende - 345zhf4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hallo  sehr geilen Weblog betreust du. Ich selber habe auch schon länger eine eigene homepage gebastelt, nähmlich eine Suchmaschine. Momentan noch zu finden auf <a href="http://beta.jerome.de">http://beta.jerome.de</a> . Währe nett wenn du mir berichtest wie du sie findest und was noch schlecht daran ist. Ein Redesign kommt erst im laufe des Monats noch hinzu. Schönes Wochenende &#8211; 345zhf4</p>
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		<title>By: fail</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 15:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cant believe what half of you are saying, a katana bests any type of european sword by a long shot...... cutting power, weight, use, evertything is superior..... learn before you write stuff down





PS. I bet half of you who have commented havent even used a sword before</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant believe what half of you are saying, a katana bests any type of european sword by a long shot&#8230;&#8230; cutting power, weight, use, evertything is superior&#8230;.. learn before you write stuff down</p>
<p>PS. I bet half of you who have commented havent even used a sword before</p>
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		<title>By: Meh</title>
		<link>http://muragdoctor.com/2007/09/30/katana/comment-page-1/#comment-7253</link>
		<dc:creator>Meh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing i will say about all you flamers out there. The Katana didn&#039;t truly come to its pinnacle and iconic shape and power untill the new sword period. This was the time that warfare changed and the Japanese came up with a design for a sword that will still have the killing power and strength of their contenders but were also faster and somewhat easier to use. The curve of the blade is to improve aerodynamics creating faster strikes and thus the style of Battojutsu which is the art of cutting and killing an enemy in ONE strike whilst unsheathing the blade came into play as this meant that warriors wielding the katana can conserve energy and fight for longer. The groove most commonly found on the katana is used so that any blood on the blade can easily be removed with a flick of the wrist (and then the warrior carries on killing) but the groove also means that the blade can cut through flesh easier as it allows the blood to flow out through the groove an the openings it creates thus resulting in a faster and easier wounding.

The european sword (Damascus, Broadsword, Claymore e.t.c.) was used primarily as a show of stength. The armour worn in combat against these swords weighed down the warrior and limited movement. In a fight it doesn&#039;t matter how much power or srtrength you have if your opponent is too fast it is useless.

THIS is why the katana was considered and still is considered one of the greatest weapons used in armed combat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing i will say about all you flamers out there. The Katana didn&#8217;t truly come to its pinnacle and iconic shape and power untill the new sword period. This was the time that warfare changed and the Japanese came up with a design for a sword that will still have the killing power and strength of their contenders but were also faster and somewhat easier to use. The curve of the blade is to improve aerodynamics creating faster strikes and thus the style of Battojutsu which is the art of cutting and killing an enemy in ONE strike whilst unsheathing the blade came into play as this meant that warriors wielding the katana can conserve energy and fight for longer. The groove most commonly found on the katana is used so that any blood on the blade can easily be removed with a flick of the wrist (and then the warrior carries on killing) but the groove also means that the blade can cut through flesh easier as it allows the blood to flow out through the groove an the openings it creates thus resulting in a faster and easier wounding.</p>
<p>The european sword (Damascus, Broadsword, Claymore e.t.c.) was used primarily as a show of stength. The armour worn in combat against these swords weighed down the warrior and limited movement. In a fight it doesn&#8217;t matter how much power or srtrength you have if your opponent is too fast it is useless.</p>
<p>THIS is why the katana was considered and still is considered one of the greatest weapons used in armed combat.</p>
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		<title>By: kagac</title>
		<link>http://muragdoctor.com/2007/09/30/katana/comment-page-1/#comment-7184</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 00:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you should not forget that they were made for each of the swords
while the european swords were made to fracture and break, as well as &quot;pass through&quot; the reinforcement, which was quite heavy and thick, the katana and oriental weapons they had q be light, in the east, is light armor, made for flexible movements .

each sword was made for different purposes, in order to confront european heavy armor, the oriental, in this case the katana, to cross the light armor.

if it is true that the katana is the most honorable representation of a samurai, it is true that Rounin took them and attack them

the strength of the katana is the speed and precision of the cut, the strength of europe is the brute force as such.

sorry for my poor english</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you should not forget that they were made for each of the swords<br />
while the european swords were made to fracture and break, as well as &#8220;pass through&#8221; the reinforcement, which was quite heavy and thick, the katana and oriental weapons they had q be light, in the east, is light armor, made for flexible movements .</p>
<p>each sword was made for different purposes, in order to confront european heavy armor, the oriental, in this case the katana, to cross the light armor.</p>
<p>if it is true that the katana is the most honorable representation of a samurai, it is true that Rounin took them and attack them</p>
<p>the strength of the katana is the speed and precision of the cut, the strength of europe is the brute force as such.</p>
<p>sorry for my poor english</p>
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		<title>By: Jee</title>
		<link>http://muragdoctor.com/2007/09/30/katana/comment-page-1/#comment-6769</link>
		<dc:creator>Jee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having trained both (medieval and modern) European and Japanese swordsmanship. I would say the swords are about equal. However European swordsmanship is or was far more pragmatic, the Europeans didn&#039;t worship their blades. Number of ocasions that ive had made a kill with the proponents own sword, something witch which i doubt a Japanese swordsman would have ever considered.

The reason Japanese are seen as better is as swordsmen is that Europeans had phased out the sword for a few hundred years. I would contend that Europeans were MUCH better than attributed for but much of the lore got lost. There are still a few schools of weird martial arts available in Europe, usually being carried onward by just one master. One of the pities is that the European tradition is almost all but lost because the sword became extinct in a real battlefield.

In any case a real sword fight is actually very booring to watch as uninitiated, theres a reason why gladiators were a special breed of fighters trained for molecularity over practicality. MOST sword fights end in a few seconds, usually the first one to move within range loosing the game.

But I wouldnt dismiss the quality of a katana, having wielded a real one i must say its a very fine piece of weaponry. European swords usually being a bit inferior in quality, but rest assured its enough. The end difference in combat is not significant, indeed the samurai wouldnt risk loosing their katana* in battle.

Besides for war I would pick a pole arm every time. So the samurai who used a Yari are indeed on to something (I would be happy to use a glaive the european counterpart, in combat against any of you wielding the best katana, you loose almost by default) A sword has its uses, but not the best thing to wield in war. Mainly better as a sidearm than a 6-12 foot pole.

PS. By the way a katana can be used for thrusting. The first time I saw that in real time directed at me I went, huh, what just happened and passed out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having trained both (medieval and modern) European and Japanese swordsmanship. I would say the swords are about equal. However European swordsmanship is or was far more pragmatic, the Europeans didn&#8217;t worship their blades. Number of ocasions that ive had made a kill with the proponents own sword, something witch which i doubt a Japanese swordsman would have ever considered.</p>
<p>The reason Japanese are seen as better is as swordsmen is that Europeans had phased out the sword for a few hundred years. I would contend that Europeans were MUCH better than attributed for but much of the lore got lost. There are still a few schools of weird martial arts available in Europe, usually being carried onward by just one master. One of the pities is that the European tradition is almost all but lost because the sword became extinct in a real battlefield.</p>
<p>In any case a real sword fight is actually very booring to watch as uninitiated, theres a reason why gladiators were a special breed of fighters trained for molecularity over practicality. MOST sword fights end in a few seconds, usually the first one to move within range loosing the game.</p>
<p>But I wouldnt dismiss the quality of a katana, having wielded a real one i must say its a very fine piece of weaponry. European swords usually being a bit inferior in quality, but rest assured its enough. The end difference in combat is not significant, indeed the samurai wouldnt risk loosing their katana* in battle.</p>
<p>Besides for war I would pick a pole arm every time. So the samurai who used a Yari are indeed on to something (I would be happy to use a glaive the european counterpart, in combat against any of you wielding the best katana, you loose almost by default) A sword has its uses, but not the best thing to wield in war. Mainly better as a sidearm than a 6-12 foot pole.</p>
<p>PS. By the way a katana can be used for thrusting. The first time I saw that in real time directed at me I went, huh, what just happened and passed out.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyp</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First to what the first two said... I believe they make a bit of confusion , they say European swords, but actually mean Damascus swords http://www.realarmorofgod.com/damascus-sword-making.html

They are comparable to the katanas at streight , flexibility and ability to cut.

But there is one more thing the Katana has and this thing is unique to it, and actually is the reason I put my vote on the katana: the shape of the Katana is much more aerodinamic , means it allows you to cut more precise, and apply blow after blow with almost no time between them. Compared to that the Damascus sword is rather bulky. To compare a Katana with a Damascus sword at this chapter is comparing a surgeons scalpen to a butcher&#039;s knife. When fighting a lot of people in a crowded place the Damascus sword is better, but for anything else Katana alll the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First to what the first two said&#8230; I believe they make a bit of confusion , they say European swords, but actually mean Damascus swords <a href="http://www.realarmorofgod.com/damascus-sword-making.html">http://www.realarmorofgod.com/damascus-sword-making.html</a></p>
<p>They are comparable to the katanas at streight , flexibility and ability to cut.</p>
<p>But there is one more thing the Katana has and this thing is unique to it, and actually is the reason I put my vote on the katana: the shape of the Katana is much more aerodinamic , means it allows you to cut more precise, and apply blow after blow with almost no time between them. Compared to that the Damascus sword is rather bulky. To compare a Katana with a Damascus sword at this chapter is comparing a surgeons scalpen to a butcher&#8217;s knife. When fighting a lot of people in a crowded place the Damascus sword is better, but for anything else Katana alll the way.</p>
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		<title>By: reality check</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for European craftsmanship, it is widely believed that katanas are better made because more of them have withstood the test of time far better than any western sword. At first glance this logic seems good enough, but if you look harder at the reality of the situation the truth will become clear. Samurai were primarily mounted archers. Yes that&#039;s right archers, go cry about it. When they did get into melee it was usually with a long spear called a yari. Only after their opponent got to close melee range would the samurai use his sword. Also, the katana was highly ornamental (why put so much work into something that is barely a weapon without making it at least aesthetically valuable?) so the care taken with the sword dramatically exceeded what was shown to western weapons. Why? Because it was hard to get another. Why was it hard to get another? Because the iron ore in Japan is CRAP. So a belief was started that since your sword was probably the only one you would get you should make it a part of yourself. That is why the samurai considered their sword their honor, and the wakizashi their soul. Does this make the samurai any more honorable than their western counterpart? No. It just means that they cared for their sword more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for European craftsmanship, it is widely believed that katanas are better made because more of them have withstood the test of time far better than any western sword. At first glance this logic seems good enough, but if you look harder at the reality of the situation the truth will become clear. Samurai were primarily mounted archers. Yes that&#8217;s right archers, go cry about it. When they did get into melee it was usually with a long spear called a yari. Only after their opponent got to close melee range would the samurai use his sword. Also, the katana was highly ornamental (why put so much work into something that is barely a weapon without making it at least aesthetically valuable?) so the care taken with the sword dramatically exceeded what was shown to western weapons. Why? Because it was hard to get another. Why was it hard to get another? Because the iron ore in Japan is CRAP. So a belief was started that since your sword was probably the only one you would get you should make it a part of yourself. That is why the samurai considered their sword their honor, and the wakizashi their soul. Does this make the samurai any more honorable than their western counterpart? No. It just means that they cared for their sword more.</p>
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